1 00:00:09,310 --> 00:00:05,210 let me give a brief abstract to the talk 2 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:09,320 rather than start into the sequence of 3 00:00:16,340 --> 00:00:11,849 PowerPoint slides if you look up 4 00:00:18,890 --> 00:00:16,350 textbooks on physics you'll find decay 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:18,900 rates of the radioactive elements listed 6 00:00:25,250 --> 00:00:21,810 and you'll be told that these are 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:25,260 constants nothing nothing changes the 8 00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:28,050 decay rate of any of these radioactive 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:33,660 elements well my colleagues here 10 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:39,210 function and etc Purdue University have 11 00:00:43,340 --> 00:00:41,430 realized that there's contradictory 12 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:43,350 evidence of this at least three 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:46,800 laboratories who have carried out not a 14 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:50,370 year studies of several elements 15 00:00:55,279 --> 00:00:52,829 radioactive elements have found annual 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:00:55,289 variations in the decay rates these 17 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:00,210 elements there they there thurs 18 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:04,140 interpretation was that this must be due 19 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:07,680 to the varying distance between the 20 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:11,119 Earth and the Sun that there's some 21 00:01:16,130 --> 00:01:13,350 particles or some other effect coming 22 00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,140 from the Sun that therefore varies with 23 00:01:20,570 --> 00:01:18,000 the variation of distance of the Earth 24 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,580 and the Sun and is at this point that I 25 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:22,320 came into the picture and joined them 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:27,119 and I have concluded that is not the 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:29,610 case that there is something else going 28 00:01:36,590 --> 00:01:33,650 on and that it really is due to a 29 00:01:39,499 --> 00:01:36,600 process that I have involved neutrinos 30 00:01:42,410 --> 00:01:39,509 solar neutrinos or is closely related to 31 00:01:47,889 --> 00:01:42,420 solar neutrinos so now I'll try to give 32 00:01:53,410 --> 00:01:47,899 you the evidence for that conclusion 33 00:01:58,569 --> 00:01:55,490 radioactive decays as involved from 34 00:02:00,770 --> 00:01:58,579 radium to actinium giving off an 35 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:00,780 electron this is one of the processes 36 00:02:06,740 --> 00:02:03,030 that was involved i think by the PTP 37 00:02:08,309 --> 00:02:06,750 experiment alfred there to kinda came 38 00:02:11,399 --> 00:02:08,319 mainly alpha decay 39 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:11,409 which of a nucleus will lose two protons 40 00:02:17,220 --> 00:02:14,620 two neutrons or beta decay in which the 41 00:02:21,270 --> 00:02:17,230 nucleus loses an electron and the others 42 00:02:24,089 --> 00:02:21,280 as well and will this doesn't matter to 43 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:24,099 us as the one the experiments carries at 44 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:25,930 Brookhaven National Laboratory a very 45 00:02:34,369 --> 00:02:29,920 distinguished laboratory dealing with 46 00:02:39,239 --> 00:02:34,379 radium and they had silicon as a 47 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:39,249 standard and this is the paper they 48 00:02:49,289 --> 00:02:46,389 published in 1986 in which they give 49 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:49,299 their measurement of the half-life and 50 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:51,790 if they know what they're after was 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:53,169 getting a more accurate measurement of 52 00:03:03,689 --> 00:02:59,250 the half-life of silicon but they found 53 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:03,699 that the measurements showed a very 54 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:07,329 clear annual variation of a fraction of 55 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:10,209 a percent and of course this makes you 56 00:03:14,369 --> 00:03:12,729 very worried because you know that the 57 00:03:16,890 --> 00:03:14,379 temperature of laboratory there is 58 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:16,900 between summer and winter you know that 59 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:20,919 the radon flux there is annually for 60 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:22,180 similar because the temperature 61 00:03:27,899 --> 00:03:25,329 variations and so that the immediate 62 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:27,909 conclusion is that your is contamination 63 00:03:36,020 --> 00:03:32,560 in your experiments and that is not a 64 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:36,030 rule variation it's a just an apparent 65 00:03:42,679 --> 00:03:39,489 12 to 22 environmental effects but they 66 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:42,689 make careful studies and they could not 67 00:03:47,249 --> 00:03:44,590 convince themselves that were the case 68 00:03:48,749 --> 00:03:47,259 it was left as an open question that 69 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:48,759 there appears to be an annual variation 70 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:52,810 they could not explain and here is a 71 00:04:00,030 --> 00:03:56,889 plot of their data and the blue points 72 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:00,040 are their measurements and either five 73 00:04:09,390 --> 00:04:04,079 point average and the red curve is 74 00:04:11,309 --> 00:04:09,400 appropriately scaled representation of 75 00:04:13,349 --> 00:04:11,319 the distance of the earth-sun distance 76 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:13,359 and if you look carefully you'll notice 77 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:15,310 they're not quite in phase and that's a 78 00:04:18,849 --> 00:04:17,409 very important point which will come 79 00:04:21,339 --> 00:04:18,859 back to later on 80 00:04:24,309 --> 00:04:21,349 another experiment of an even longer 81 00:04:28,899 --> 00:04:24,319 time scale I think almost 20 years Carol 82 00:04:33,159 --> 00:04:28,909 in Germany and they were studying radium 83 00:04:36,189 --> 00:04:33,169 and they found a variation of a fraction 84 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:36,199 of a percent a similar variation an 85 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:40,550 annual variation and here amines it's a 86 00:04:46,089 --> 00:04:43,969 very impressive curve showing again the 87 00:04:47,559 --> 00:04:46,099 blue points are their data are their 88 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:47,569 measurements of the other decay rates 89 00:04:52,659 --> 00:04:49,849 and the red curve is the earth-sun 90 00:04:54,369 --> 00:04:52,669 distance so it looks at first sight as 91 00:04:57,700 --> 00:04:54,379 if there really is a correlation between 92 00:05:00,429 --> 00:04:57,710 earth-sun distance and the decay rate 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:00,439 and that led the Purdue scientists to 94 00:05:06,909 --> 00:05:03,490 conclude that there's some kind of flux 95 00:05:10,119 --> 00:05:06,919 that is affecting the decay rate but it 96 00:05:14,129 --> 00:05:10,129 falls off the distance from the Sun but 97 00:05:17,369 --> 00:05:14,139 if you look carefully at the phase of 98 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:17,379 this annual variation which is shown in 99 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,449 green and compare that with with the 100 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:22,639 phase of the earth-sun distance is shown 101 00:05:28,930 --> 00:05:24,529 in red you see they don't quite match 102 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:28,940 and so this makes one suspect that is 103 00:05:35,740 --> 00:05:30,740 not just the earth-sun distance that is 104 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:35,750 of influencing this process and my 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:38,089 colleagues applaud you therefore propose 106 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:41,810 there is some scale of fuel or something 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:43,759 emitted from the Sun well no actually 108 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:46,370 this was there this was their model 109 00:05:56,290 --> 00:05:51,919 before noticing the phase problem now 110 00:06:01,149 --> 00:05:56,300 their experience carried out by a group 111 00:06:07,679 --> 00:06:01,159 in Italy on dark matter and they were 112 00:06:14,350 --> 00:06:07,689 looking for evidence of dark matter by 113 00:06:18,459 --> 00:06:14,360 the variation of a scintillation 114 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:18,469 detector measurements and they'd knowing 115 00:06:25,899 --> 00:06:23,930 the rosti of Earth respect to the the 116 00:06:29,290 --> 00:06:25,909 galactic background or a cosmological 117 00:06:31,629 --> 00:06:29,300 background they figured that there 118 00:06:34,540 --> 00:06:31,639 should be an 119 00:06:36,719 --> 00:06:34,550 annual variation with pigs I think 120 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:36,729 sometime in June June too and 121 00:06:44,559 --> 00:06:40,400 interestingly enough they they found 122 00:06:46,809 --> 00:06:44,569 annual variation and they found that it 123 00:06:48,429 --> 00:06:46,819 does indeed peek around that time so 124 00:06:53,559 --> 00:06:48,439 here is a correlation here's a 125 00:06:57,159 --> 00:06:53,569 comparison of the phases the PTB a 126 00:07:01,749 --> 00:06:57,169 German experiment had a maximum January 127 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:01,759 31 whereas the earth-sun distance had 128 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:03,710 its minimum giving a maximum effects 129 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:06,529 from the sun on january three the 130 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:09,110 magnitude affect the sun's axis is 131 00:07:14,890 --> 00:07:12,860 tilted reflect ecliptic and you get the 132 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:14,900 best view of the northern hemisphere of 133 00:07:22,029 --> 00:07:18,550 the sun on march eight the neutrino flux 134 00:07:24,969 --> 00:07:22,039 had been found to vary annually and that 135 00:07:28,659 --> 00:07:24,979 peaks around februari to the wimps 136 00:07:32,110 --> 00:07:28,669 observed by the weekly suspected wimps 137 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:32,120 observed by the da ma group peaks around 138 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:35,120 june two now what you see is that the 139 00:07:41,709 --> 00:07:39,139 PTP data sea is closest to the neutrino 140 00:07:43,329 --> 00:07:41,719 data and that attracted my attention so 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:43,339 i've been studying solar neutrinos for 142 00:07:49,809 --> 00:07:47,810 quite a few years so what are the 143 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:49,819 possible explanations say of the annual 144 00:07:52,899 --> 00:07:51,620 variation one is that there's 145 00:07:54,999 --> 00:07:52,909 environmental effects and 146 00:07:57,429 --> 00:07:55,009 experimentalists say that now we've been 147 00:07:59,679 --> 00:07:57,439 very careful we've ruled that out the 148 00:08:01,540 --> 00:07:59,689 other ear is it due to these weakly 149 00:08:03,850 --> 00:08:01,550 interacting massive particles that the 150 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:03,860 Italian group claimed to observe but the 151 00:08:10,779 --> 00:08:06,740 phases don't agree neutrinos the face is 152 00:08:12,189 --> 00:08:10,789 ok but the mechanism is unknown there 153 00:08:17,529 --> 00:08:12,199 could be something else of course going 154 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:17,539 on so I decided one needs to do find 155 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:19,849 something else about this data set to 156 00:08:27,629 --> 00:08:21,289 try to see whether it really is due to 157 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:27,639 neutrinos or not and I have found that 158 00:08:34,779 --> 00:08:31,759 the neutrino flux is closely correlated 159 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:34,789 with the total light output from the Sun 160 00:08:38,439 --> 00:08:36,890 called in radiance was a very surprising 161 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:38,449 rule out resolved with very strong 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:44,360 result and that that has a variation 163 00:08:49,889 --> 00:08:46,010 if there is with a pure frequency of 164 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:49,899 about 11.1 cycles per year about 165 00:08:55,930 --> 00:08:52,760 30-something days per year different 166 00:08:58,870 --> 00:08:55,940 from the surface rotation rate so what I 167 00:09:02,370 --> 00:08:58,880 did was to take the Iranian data and 168 00:09:05,139 --> 00:09:02,380 compare it with this decay rate data 169 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:05,149 using the Decatur using the radians as a 170 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:08,180 proxy for neutrinos and I found that 171 00:09:13,690 --> 00:09:10,480 there's a very strong this is a 172 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:13,700 correlation measurement that this curve 173 00:09:19,389 --> 00:09:16,700 shows the correlation between the decay 174 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:19,399 rates and the Iranian siz a function of 175 00:09:24,430 --> 00:09:21,560 frequency and you see the very sharp 176 00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:24,440 peak at eleven point oh eight cycles per 177 00:09:35,620 --> 00:09:31,550 year confirming the conjecture that what 178 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:35,630 is affecting the decay rate of these 179 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:39,950 elements is in fact neutrinos and i did 180 00:09:44,769 --> 00:09:42,380 a monte carlo calculation to see whether 181 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:44,779 the chance effect and i ran a hundred 182 00:09:49,810 --> 00:09:47,480 thousand monte carlo's and not one of 183 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:49,820 them gave a strong a result as the 184 00:09:56,530 --> 00:09:52,640 actual data so this this correlation 185 00:09:59,620 --> 00:09:56,540 between a radiance was the proxy for